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作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-7 21:41:59 標題: 求救2

今日已經第十日, 仲有4日就完左個療程
但藍吊身上仲發現白點,
而藍咀身上白點已清
請問療程是否需要加長??
請各師兄指點

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-7 22:16:23

其他魚仲有冇白點？

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-7 22:32:27

ybkwok 發表於 2013-3-7 22:16
其他魚仲有冇白點？

其他死晒~
得返佢兩條

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-7 23:07:48

繼續落銅，有冇check 銅呀，
而家無論如何都要將白點蟲消滅

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-7 23:26:26

check 住
KEEP係0.25左右呀

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-8 00:10:23

Keep住咁，等到白點消失后十四日，
再從新黎過，今次當吸取經驗，
以後就識E白點！
有冇Q魚習慣，冇既就要培養，有既要檢討下

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-8 00:12:59

ybkwok 發表於 2013-3-8 00:10
Keep住咁，等到白點消失后十四日，
再從新黎過，今次當吸取經驗，
以後就識E白點！

OKOK

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-8 00:14:58

唉........

作者: nickcw 時間: 2013-3-8 00:15:32

咁陰公, 努力...............

作者: pkchung 時間: 2013-3-8 07:54:47

我覺得0.25應該唔足夠，個人覺得可以落多小小銅，升到0.5左右，因為小弟岩岩先開始清銅！我頭3日都係教到0.25左右，魚個態ok但白點一d都冇清，第4日開始升到0.5左右，去到第6日白點己經冇晒了！只係個人岩岩過去既小小經驗！我都係一個新手黎

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-8 08:35:21

無錯，可以再升高D，去到0.4-5，留意有冇收口，
如果收埋口，就真係reset 哂

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-8 12:41:44

今早見到藍吊個身都冇晒白點了
即係今日開始計14日?

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-8 13:07:22

無錯，今日計起

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-8 14:11:18

ybkwok 發表於 2013-3-8 13:07
無錯，今日計起

到時我要換水一半??
跟手放吸銅棉?

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-8 14:16:34

我是浩發表於 2013-3-8 14:11
到時我要換水一半??
跟手放吸銅棉?

基本上換水已經夠，可以換三分二水，
個人覺得，吸銅綿無乜用

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-8 14:46:30

ybkwok 發表於 2013-3-8 14:16
基本上換水已經夠，可以換三分二水，
個人覺得，吸銅綿無乜用

唔緊要啦~都已經買了

作者: tina_leung424 時間: 2013-3-9 02:46:29

我是浩發表於 2013-3-8 12:41
今早見到藍吊個身都冇晒白點了
即係今日開始計14日?

點解冇唒白點仲要等14天？

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-9 09:03:29

tina_leung424 發表於 2013-3-9 02:46
點解冇唒白點仲要等14天？

你眼見既白點已經係成蟲，由於已經離開宿主，
所以已經死亡，所以魚身上邊見唔到白點！
但係佢已經喺缸底佈滿蟲卵，繁殖周期係7日，
keep銅係要連初生白點蟲消滅，所以keep住2個周期，
理應殺絕白點！
如果心急，眼見白點消失而停薬，白點蟲會產生抗薬性，
到時更加難搞！

作者: Wilsonlsl 時間: 2013-3-9 09:06:07

等同人食退燒藥,退咗燒都要食多1-2次藥,如果唔系就會反燒

作者: Wilsonlsl 時間: 2013-3-9 09:06:09

等同人食退燒藥,退咗燒都要食多1-2次藥,如果唔系就會反燒

作者: tina_leung424 時間: 2013-3-9 21:25:03

ybkwok 發表於 2013-3-9 09:03
你眼見既白點已經係成蟲，由於已經離開宿主，
所以已經死亡，所以魚身上邊見唔到白點！
但係佢已經&#21 ...

咁之後的14天內係唔加得魚？定係keep住落銅呀？

作者: ybkwok 時間: 2013-3-9 21:54:47

tina_leung424 發表於 2013-3-9 21:25
咁之後的14天內係唔加得魚？定係keep住落銅呀？

14日內Keep銅，唔好加魚

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-9 22:01:54

樓主，我都叫你買pointex啦！使乜等十四日呀！又唔使吸銅，方便易用。

作者: tina_leung424 時間: 2013-3-9 22:31:14

Galaxy 發表於 2013-3-9 22:01
樓主，我都叫你買pointex啦！使乜等十四日呀！又唔使吸銅，方便易用。

Galaxy gor, 請問pointer點用法？療程幾耐？

作者: hkpeoppp 時間: 2013-3-9 23:31:58

COPPER SULFATE--Use in saltwater tanks and with great caution in freshwater
systems. It can be very toxic in soft water and inactivated in hard water. It is also
immunosuppressive and toxic to invertebrates and plants. For water calculations, it is
100% active. Dose in saltwater 0.15 ppm (never above 0.3 ppm). Check water
concentrations daily. 500 ppm for a one minute dip.

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-9 23:52:53

隔日落，10ml=200l水，又唔使吸銅，好快見效，一星期內搞掂！

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-9 23:53:54

之前我落三次就可以，6日，期間不用換水！

作者: 我是浩 時間: 2013-3-10 00:28:32

Galaxy 發表於 2013-3-9 22:01
樓主，我都叫你買pointex啦！使乜等十四日呀！又唔使吸銅，方便易用。

支野一早買左嘛~睇黎都要用完先轉了

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-10 00:35:09

攞嚟睇門口啦！

作者: tina_leung424 時間: 2013-3-10 12:39:56

本帖最後由 tina_leung424 於 2013-3-10 12:51 編輯

Galaxy 發表於 2013-3-9 23:52
隔日落，10ml=200l水，又唔使吸銅，好快見效，一星期內搞掂！

請問吸銅係應該點做？而pointex係咪唔駛用tester? Pointex對生物環冇影響嗎？咁係咪見魚身冇白點就停落？太多問題請見諒

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-10 12:58:11

吸銅，就要買吸銅棉及換水！一般白點藥係唔可以落在珊瑚缸。

作者: alan@aqua 時間: 2013-3-10 14:56:14

本帖最後由 alan@aqua 於 2013-3-10 15:07 編輯

我醫嘅方法係見魚身有白點就即刻要落銅藥! 落藥前先加滿水第一次落藥要到 0.2ppm/L 12小時後再加藥到 0.3PPM/L 再12小時後再加藥到 0.4PPM/L 同時要熄UV 開化淡打大氣第3天左右魚身上白點應該清哂否則再加藥到0.5PPM/L (這時D魚已經適應哂D銅唔超過0.5PPM/L一定沒事的!) 期間不要加水跟以上方法正常來說 3-4天已能去清身上所有白點由肉眼所見清哂白點計起 14天內不要換水但可加水熄UV 化淡開打大氣照做 14天後換3/1水 7天後再換3/1水咁就完成個療程了!
我之前很懶冇Q魚開缸4個幾月醫了3次白點但托賴都係零傷亡現在加新魚都會Q魚 (覺得因為自己懶害D魚受罪真係唔啱!)
醫白點真係唔難最難係夠唔夠胆落藥嘅份量我係用藍十字銅藥亦唔理佢建議落的份量我個缸30X21X28 加沙缸上次醫白點用了55ML!!分4次落藥 (我用荷蘭果隻CHECK銅) 這里亦有不小CHING質疑我...記住都係果句醫白點要快.準.狠!

作者: hkpeoppp 時間: 2013-3-12 06:46:58

alan@aqua 發表於 2013-3-10 14:56
我醫嘅方法係見魚身有白點就即刻要落銅藥! 落藥前先加滿水第一次落藥要到 0.2ppm/L 12小時後再加藥到 ...

practitioners must keep themselves informed of possible changes in the status of this chemical. CuSO4 has been used for many years as a parasiticide and is particularly useful in large production ponds because of its relatively low cost. Copper is highly toxic to fish, and safe use depends on its interaction with carbonate salts in water. In freshwater systems, the concentration of CuSO4 applied should be based on the total alkalinity (TA) of the water. If TA is <50 mg/L, copper cannot be used safely without performing a bioassay. If TA is 50-250 mg/L, a safe concentration of CuSO4 can be determined by dividing the TA by 100. For example, if TA = 100 mg/L, a safe concentration of CuSO4 would be 1 mg/L. If TA is >250 mg/L, the concentration of CuSO4 should not exceed 2.5 mg/L. Other concerns when treating a pond with CuSO4 (in addition to its direct toxicity to fish) relate to its algicidal activity. Rapid death of an algal bloom can precipitate a catastrophic oxygen depletion. Use of CuSO4 in ponds not equipped with supplemental aeration is risky. Use of CuSO4 is hazardous if a pond has a heavy algal bloom (secchi disc ≤18 in.) or if the water is already deficient in oxygen due to other factors, (eg, cloudy weather or high water temperature). CuSO4 is efficacious against most protozoal parasites, is economical, and despite these concerns, may be an excellent choice when multiple treatments are required (eg, in an epizootic of Ichthyophthirius multifiliis ). In saltwater systems, copper is sometimes applied in a chelated form because it stays in concentration longer. Chelated compounds may be difficult to use safely and require careful monitoring. CuSO4 can be used to treat marine fish, but the concentration of active copper must be closely monitored (test kits are available) and should be maintained at 0.2 mg/L for up to 3 wk. Safe and effective use of copper in marine systems requires that Cu2+ concentrations be tested at least once a day. Copper is extremely toxic to invertebrates, so these must be removed before the water is treated. Copper is also toxic to plants and should not be used in ornamental ponds that have been stocked with valuable plants. Finally, copper will impact bacteria in biofilters and a transient increase in ammonia should be expected for several days following treatment. Monitoring ammonia until measurable concentrations subside is recommended.

作者: alan@aqua 時間: 2013-3-13 18:40:18

hkpeoppp 發表於 2013-3-12 06:46
practitioners must keep themselves informed of possible changes in the status of this chemical. Cu ...

嘩....精彩! 但若是轉貼的, 請說明出處!

作者: hkpeoppp 時間: 2013-3-13 19:49:09

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/

作者: tina_leung424 時間: 2013-3-16 01:53:57

Galaxy 發表於 2013-3-10 00:35
攞嚟睇門口啦！

請問pointex係咪可以將未附在魚身前的白點蟲殺死? 係咪魚身冇白點已可停用?

作者: Galaxy 時間: 2013-3-16 02:47:18

你要記住，說明書講落五次為一個療程。不管是否療程期間沒有白點，以我經驗落三次已足夠。

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