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作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-1 04:04:11 標題: 消除魚缸裡的綠絲藻，汽泡藻, 草皮狀藻和紅泥藻最簡單+最低成本的方法

本帖最後由 SantaMonicaHelp 於 2012-5-31 12:05 編輯

消除(但願是永久性的)魚缸裡的綠絲藻，汽泡藻, 草皮狀藻和紅泥藻最簡單+最低成本的方法

這個新版本的製造起來比你可能已經看過的那個版本要簡單得多；它在2012年以前從來沒有被公佈過。淡水缸和海水缸都適用。

如果你像大多數的水族愛好者一樣，討厭的水藻是個一直存在的問題。你想給缸裡的活物餵食，但是馬上會有一堆水藻出現。你已經試過很多種辦法；有些有用但是花銷很大，有些好像有點用但又不是那麼明顯，有些就是完成沒用。

試想這一場景：因為你每天餵食，你缸裡的營養物質(硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽nitrateand phosphate)正在積累。水藻需要吸收硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽來成長，所以它們正在你的魚缸裡享受著你缸裡的營養而不斷的成長著。怎麼辦呢？

再想想這個：硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽是水藻的成長的必要條件。那麼為什麼不用水藻來消耗缸裡的硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽呢？答案是：可以的！怎麼做？只要做一個非常簡單的叫做UpflowAlgae Scrubber的小設備！它簡單，便宜，只要幾個你可能已經擁有零件，幾分鐘之內你就可以做好一個小的。我以後會發布一些比較複雜的版本，現在這裡是一些基礎的設計：

“AlgaeScrubber”是一個非常簡單的過濾設備，它使水藻從你的魚缸中消失而只生長在過濾器中。簡單來說，過濾器中的環境比魚缸裡的任何一個角落都更適合水藻生長；因此，水藻全都長到過濾器裡去了，然後你只要把過濾器裡的水藻拿出來丟掉就好了。但是為了使水藻長在過濾器裡，它們需要硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽；猜猜看這些鹽份從哪裡來呢？魚缸裡的水！

如果仔細想想的話，水藻總是長在一些特定的位置。這是因為魚缸裡有些地方的具備了水藻生長的三個必要條件（光，水流，營養），而有些地方沒有。 ”upflowalgae scrubber” 只是充分的利用了這些必要條件，使水藻生長在一個你可以輕易除理掉的地方。而且只要水里的鹽份被吸收掉了，所有討厭的藻類像是綠絲藻，汽泡藻, 草皮狀藻和紅泥藻都很難存活下來。

但是如果這個過濾系統這麼好用的話，這麼長時間以來，你怎麼都沒有聽說過呢？其實2008年曾有過一些帶瀑布的版本被公佈，但是製造起來很難，當時也沒有廠商生產出售，在市面上也買不到；所以除非是喜歡根據設計草圖自己製作設備，否則沒有任何選擇，必須要購買市面上所能買到的過濾系統。其實Scrubber的主要作用只是為水藻創造一個理想的生長環境（光，水流，營養），通過讓水流過一塊粗糙的材料，讓水藻長在這塊材料上而不是魚缸裡面。瀑布版的Scrubber確實會在濾器里長出很多的水藻，它也會把魚缸裡很多水藻都清除：1000多個人在四年間自己製造了瀑布版的AlgaeScrubber, 並且在不同的論壇上記錄了它們的結果，大部分的人都在8個星期內就甩掉了煩人的水藻，也有很多在4個星期內就做到了。還有很多我從來沒有發過貼子的論壇，大概有10000多人自己製造過瀑布版的AlgaeScrubber，都得到了差不多的結果。

2011年4月，突然有了一個想法：如果不讓水像瀑布一樣自上而下流過一個藻屏，而是通過氣泡讓水自下而上流過會如何呢？為什麼會這麼想呢？因為瀑布版的AlgaeScrubber雖然很好，但它還是需要一定的空間來讓水流自上而下的流過。這就意味著在水族箱的下面會需要有一個蓄水槽，或者是把Scrubber放到水族箱的上面。而且，瀑布版的需要在水（魚缸）外運作，這就需要另外佔用空間。新的“upflow”(上流)版本，可以直接放在魚缸裡，這樣就不會佔用任何額外的空間，它也不需要任何外部的管子或者水泵，只要氣泡石就妥了。

Upflow Algae Scrubber(UAS)在你的水族箱里為水藻提供了最好的生長條件：氣泡石提供了急而洶湧的水流；強照明提供光；你水里的營養提供了硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽。唯一需要的就是個水藻能附著的地方，只要一塊磨粗糙的塑料藻屏就可以解決了。這樣水藻就會因為水流和光比魚缸裡的其它地方都要優越而開始生長在藻屏上；硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽也在這個過程中被消耗掉了。這樣魚缸裡的水藻就會慢慢消失，繼而出現在藻屏上，然後你可以每一到兩周清理一下藻屏，把水藻丟掉就可以了。

最基本的裝配一個UpflowAlgae Scrubber的方法，特別是在小型的水族箱裡，就是在一個縱向的藻屏下面放個氣泡石。如果是放在水族箱裡面的，只要在玻璃外面放個燈，這樣光就會照在藻屏上。如果你還想讓它工作得好一點（就是更過好的過濾），只要加上一個反射板讓藻屏兩側都照到光就可以了。

需要記住的是UpflowAlgae Scrubber（或者是任何型號的AlgaeScrubber）不會讓你的水族箱爆滿水藻。相反，水藻會從你的水族箱裡消失而後開始長在藻屏上。然後你只要拿出藻屏把水藻刮掉就可以了。還有一個小驚喜要分享：小心你的小魚小螺子們吃掉你的濾器！因為真的沒什麼比鮮活的綠藻更美味的食物了，所以你的魚兒或是螺絲們可能會使你的濾器很難長得厚實。比較簡單的解決辦法就是放些網篩或帳子把Scrubber給圍起來。

有一些從2008年8月起就被大家所熟知必要條件會幫助你快點上手。決定UpflowAlgae Scrubber大小的條件是你每天投多少食物，而不是你的魚缸裡有多少水，因為讓水藻成長的營養來自於你投進水族箱裡的食物。因此：

例子：

作者: 肥嘟嘟河馬仔 時間: 2012-6-1 06:10:05

作者: fatfish 時間: 2012-6-1 16:45:04

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-2 03:14:02

OK some growth pics...

Floyd R Turbo on the GIRS site:

Rkyrickstr on the TF site:

Ruddybop on the MFK site:

Fishuntbike on the scrubber site:

And mine...

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-14 06:35:55

本帖最後由 SantaMonicaHelp 於 2012-6-13 14:37 編輯

The new Hang-On-Glass UAS with bubble remover:

作者: vsvs 時間: 2012-6-14 08:57:40

咁咪要加氣泵?會唔會令pH下降??
等我係新缸試下先

作者: Franky 時間: 2012-6-14 10:11:56

作者: 3166886 時間: 2012-6-14 13:57:05

咁咪要加氣泵?會唔會令pH下降??
等我係新缸試下先

快D試下。。。。再教我點整。。。。。。

作者: vsvs 時間: 2012-6-14 14:49:07

其實簡單做返隻落水版本
加幾塊膠板係落水漕,加燈照

又或者......用燈照滴流槽啲黑波,可能都可以生藻(不過面積唔夠大)

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-19 04:42:24

vsvs 發表於 2012-6-13 16:57
咁咪要加氣泵?會唔會令pH下降??
等我係新缸試下先

scrubber makes the PH goes up by 0.1-0.2

作者: zero 時間: 2012-6-19 22:32:02

圖片附件: IMG_2406.jpg (2012-6-19 22:31:18, 127.29 KB) / 下載次數 168
http://seafishzone.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=ODQ2Mnw3NWVhOTRlNHwxNzMyNzkyMzAyfDB8MA%3D%3D

作者: ice28720 時間: 2012-6-19 23:53:28

作者: dicky826 時間: 2012-6-22 10:41:58

請問我放一塊細格仔膠網係背濾~

唔打氣，靠背濾既水流
唔打燈翔燈，靠太陽6-8 hours 曬到

可行嗎？

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-23 05:48:37

dicky826 發表於 2012-6-21 18:41
請問我放一塊細格仔膠網係背濾~

唔打氣，靠背濾既水流

如果水流是自上而下的，那就是waterfall version, 可行，但是你需要direct 光照。

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-23 05:51:41

zero 發表於 2012-6-19 06:32

需要清理了～

这是UAS还是waterfall?

作者: dicky826 時間: 2012-6-23 10:47:51

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2012-6-23 05:48
如果水流是自上而下的，那就是waterfall version, 可行，但是你需要direct 光照。

Thx

direct 光照用普通黃光 , 紅光還是藍光較好？

作者: zero 時間: 2012-6-23 11:26:02

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2012-6-23 05:51
需要清理了～

这是UAS还是waterfall?

背濾waterfall，設計簡單效果又好

請問你們都是用2700k的嗎?最近想換6500k的看看能出什麼藻

作者: dicky826 時間: 2012-6-25 09:59:42

本帖最後由 dicky826 於 2012-6-25 10:00 編輯

D左個燈架掛係背濾， 3w LED ，要照18小時燈 ? thx thx

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-26 08:35:36

dicky826 發表於 2012-6-24 17:59
D左個燈架掛係背濾， 3w LED ，要照18小時燈 ? thx thx

How big is your screen? 10X15cm would be good for 3w LED. 18hrs. and the color of LED should be red.

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-26 08:36:15

zero 發表於 2012-6-22 19:26
背濾waterfall，設計簡單效果又好

請問你們都是用2700k的嗎?最近想換6500k的看看能出什麼藻
...

Yes, always 2700k. 6500K is white blue, algae need red. it won't grow.

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-26 08:36:26

dicky826 發表於 2012-6-22 18:47
Thx

direct 光照用普通黃光 , 紅光還是藍光較好？

Red, always red.

作者: dicky826 時間: 2012-6-26 09:23:19

有d 迷惘，到底是 2700k(偏黃) 還是紅光 ?

作者: vsvs 時間: 2012-6-26 10:19:56

應該係2700K~3000K(偏黃),家用烏絲胆 http://pic.pimg.tw/familyhung66/1338026717-1841556362.jpg
放射出紅色光波

作者: dicky826 時間: 2012-6-26 11:08:22

vsvs 發表於 2012-6-26 10:19
應該係2700K~3000K(偏黃),家用烏絲胆 http://pic.pimg.tw/familyhung66/1338026717-1841556362.jpg
...

thx!

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-29 04:47:08

CFL 就是暖光。。。 LED才分紅藍。。

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-6-29 04:48:01

Everybody loves growth pictures:

Day 1:

Day 2:

Day 3:

Day 4:

Day 5:

Day 6:

Day 7:

Day 8:

Day 9:

7 Days of growth after first cleaning:

Video of first cleaning after 9 days of growth from a new screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0K4UCp9_aA

Video of 7 days of growth after the first cleaning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o14culabk7k

Time to eat more TV dinners and save those trays :)

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-7-10 04:32:17

作者: ice28720 時間: 2012-7-10 09:24:23

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-7-18 08:53:57

Some success stories of people using waterfall algae scrubbers on different sites:

Aydee on the scrubber site: "I'm going to call this a success. My nitrates had been sitting steady at about 10 or so for over a year. For it to drop to undetectable in 2 weeks.. THAT is impressive. I have got my skimmer running still, but once my ATS is running, I'll turn off the skimmer (not remove.. Yet....) If situation remains excellent as the trend currently is, I'll remove the skimmer. However, I came into ATS thinking "It can't hurt, as I'll keep my skimmer running" and now I'm thinking "WOAH! They're right!".
Obviously, the proof will be in 2 years time, ATS sans skimmer.. But.. So far, the numbers are fantastic."

Robert_Patterso on the RC site: "Best thing I have ever put on any of my tanks in over 25 years of being in the hobby"

Pskelton on the RC site: "I personally have not done a water change in 6 months ever since I implemented my scrubber. long story short my tank was a mess, kid dumped container of food in tank. I got a snow flake eel that dug up my sand bed and I was running a very under powered cheep skimmer. This lead to my nitrates peeking at 160. I did water changes for a while but the nitrate just keep coming back up to 160. The water changes were getting expensive and I was about to give up when I tried the scrubber. Within a few weeks nitrate dropped to 60 and slowly came down from there. As of my test last week I am finally at 0 nitrate and I haven't done a water change in six months. The protean skimmer has been removed and my tank is healthier than ever. I am just waiting for the algae on my rocks to finish dieing off."

Murph on the scrubber site: "my ATS is coming along fine. I think I spent about 30 bucks making it. When I compare that to the thousand or more I have spent on skimmers over the past ten years or so that made little to no difference when it came to nuisance algae in the display I want to pull my hair out. My ATS has out done them all in a matter of a few months."

Spotter on the RC site: "Nitrate Day 1: 5ppm, Week 1: 0ppm, Week 2: 0ppm. P04 Day 1: .035,
Week 1: .015, Week 2: .0092 I am liking this very much."

JohnnyB_in_SD on the RC site: "I feed about 6-7 cubes a day on a 100gl tank, and 10-12 cubes two days a week when I do the nems & corals too. N&

have been undetectable since I started using ATS, which is a mickey mouse rubber maid tub version. Since I am always looking for the easiest way to do everything, I will continue cleaning the whole screen once a week. For me, it was a real struggle maintaining water quality with just a fuge: starving my fish, super skimming, massive weekly water changes - just to keep Nitrates near 20ppm and Phosphate under 1.0. That all went away with an ATS, the hobby is much more enjoyable and not a huge chore."

Thedude657 on the scrubber site: "So my screen finally filled out with greenish algae. Water quality is excellent and now I have all sorts of cool things growing on my live rock. Little white sponges are popping up everywhere, some stuff I have no clue what it is yet. Just wanted to say thanks to help me get started."

Chrisfraser05 on the RC site: "I just wanted to jump in and say after bumping into Santamonica on a forum a while back and also watching Lafishguys videos I started a marine tank [8 months ago]. Obviously I started my first tank with a DIY algae scrubber and have NEVER seen either nitrate or phosphate."

Redneckgearhead on the scrubber site: "Heres the pics of my HA problem. [algea all over]These where taken just before I added my scrubber. I had tried EVERYTHING nothing helped. I paid a small fortune for a skimmer that I was told would surely take care of the problem. The HA laughed and kept on growing. My lights where down to 3 hours a day, my fish where only fed a small amount every two to three days, I was doing 10 percent water changes twice a week. And keep in mind those picks are only about 3 days growth, I would remove about 80 percent of the HA during my water changes. These are pics I took today just before my weekly water change. [almost no algae] I am feeding daily, my fish are now fat and happy. My scrubber is working beautifully! I am so glad I found out about scrubbers. I am still using my skimmer, but I may take it off line as soon as all the HA is gone. From the looks of things that shouldn't be much longer."

Fragglerocks on the RC site: "Ive gotten rid of 95% of all "bad" algae in the DT and my P04 Level is 0.12 checked by Hanna meter. Nitrates - Zero. I feed the equivalent of 2 frozen cubes per day, along with pellets whenever I think about it. up to 2 times per day."

Scrubit on the scrubber site: "have been running a scrubber-only 90gal tank for over a year now with great success. [...] I was ready to buy a big ol skimmer for my new tank build when I came across some of the info SM had posted. That was all it took, and I've never looked back. NEVER had algae in DT, NEVER had readable nitrates/phos after cycle, and have probably changed out maybe 40gal of water since setup. Personally I find running a scrubber almost as fun as the tank itself!"

Psyops on the RC site: "I had a DSB and chaeto fuge. When I added a ATS, the chaeto disappeared. I don't know if the DSB is doing anything. I feed my fish and tank from 1-2 times daily depending on my schedule. The ATS is doing really well, especially when I added a Calcium reactor 3 months ago. I did not believe some of the stuff people were saying on how effective an ATS system could be, but they were mostly correct."

JohnnyBinSD on the RC site: "I finally got around to putting an ATS on my tank 3 weeks ago. Just harvested a pile of algae off it tonight. In those 3 weeks I have doubled the amount of daily food I put in the tank, run the skimmer 6 hours/day instead of 24/7, and removed the lighting from the chaeto in the old fuge. Nitrates & phosphates are undetectable, algae in the display tank is almost nonexistent, fish are fat & happy. An ATS is the cheapest & most effective thing I've ever done to improve water quality. I wish I had built one sooner."

Kcmopar on the MFT site: "Its been about 5 weeks (started the weekend before fathers day) or so and the green hair algae has stopped growing in my 40G. Yeah!!! Its all receding, maybe just a few percent left at the base of a couple rocks that my coral beauty snacks on. Just amazing. Started this 40G salt from Jump with an ATS. IT NEVER CYCLED!!! I have little pods, tiny feather dusters, and other critters thriving like crazy. Coraline already starting to spread across the tank. Nutrients are always zero to just barely detectable on both the 10g and 40g. Also a note on the 40G, I never had to do a water change yet!!! No test results ever got past barely detectable. I have been dabbling with an ATS on a 10 gallon Freshwater as well. Same results so far. I am building a bigger one for my 150G FW in a few weeks."

Reeftanker on the MFUK site: "i have cleaned it about 8/10 times now, about 50-90 grams of algae each time and i have just tsted my tank i have on my test kits; Phosphates = clear that means undetectable levels on my test kit, Nitrates = 1ppm maybe 2ppm, what more do i have to say im am chuffed to bits and over the moon"

Etan on the MFUK site: "Just to share some of my results with my scrubber. I set up my new tank at beginning of Jan(Rio 400). The only filtration I have on the tank is a scrubber and about 50kg of live rock. After the tank had cycled my nitrates peaked at about 25ppm about 2 weeks ago. There were only 2 clowns and 2 chromis in tank and small cuc. Just tested today after all stock and cuc from old tank have been in there for about 1 week and nitrate reading is only 2ppm and not much signs of algee in main tank or on glass. It seems to me the scrubber is doing its job."

Weatherby68ss on the scrubber site: "i have been into this hobby for 3 years now and was using a wet /dry filter for the first year and a half or so untill i found out about algae scrubbers. i have to admit i would not still have an aquarium if not for my ats. its simply to much time, work and $$$ using any other type of filtration. with the ats i can actually sit back and enjoy my tank and keep my fish fat and happy with out worrying about the next water change because i hav'nt done 1 in over a year!

anyone thats thinking about building 1 all i can say is go for it THEY WORK!!! nuff said"

Mgraf on the RC site: "I have been running a scrubber for about 8 months now, at first I had a skimmer running, macro's, rock rubble, and deep sand bed. Same setup as you almost. I still have the deep sand bed but, eliminated the other stuff over time for the sake of simplicity. I clean the scrubbers algae once a week, do monthly water changes, feed often and alot, and my corals and fish have never been happier or fatter in the year and a half it has been set up. Many may disagree but, for me it is the easiest way to run a salt water reef."

Jukka on the RC site: "I used to have various carbon sources + ATB Supersize skimmer as filtration for my 400 gal reef. I never succeeded to outcompete nutrient problems with those, no matter how much carbon I added. I also tried the pellet version. Since building a large scrubber with lots of light, all problems are gone. But I didn't take the skimmer out of the system and didn't stop carbon dosing, and don't intend to. I just reduced carbon amount to about 1/10 of the original. I like the effects carbon does for fungi, and other stuff like that, growth. Though other reason for keeping skimmer online is the amount I paid for the supersize ATB.

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-8-31 00:05:35

Some UAS builds...

"Acorral" on the scrubber site:

"Badfish" on the RC site:

"Cmaxtian" on the scrubber site:

"Deneed4spd" onthe TCMAS site:

"Ewerd" on the scrubber site:

"Fishuntbike" on the scrubber site:

"FloydRturbo" on the scrubber site:

"Hugbert" on the scrubber site:

"Jaz" on the scrubber site:

"Kalgra" on the R2R site:

"KelliZackMOMon"on the LR site:

"MorganAtlanta"on the scrubber site;

"Octavia-vrs"on the UR site:

"Othello"on the scrubber site:

"OwenReefin"on the PNWMAS site:

"Pecker115"on the UR site:

"Cermet" on the AC site:

"Promazine"on the UR site:

"Bobba" on the scrubber site:

"Reefnjunkie"on the PNWMAS site:

"RkyRickstr"on the scrubber site:

"Ruddybop"on the MFK site:

"Smann" on the PNWMAS site:

"Strayrex" on the UR site:

"Swhite" on the scrubber site:

"Tonymar"on the scrubber site:

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-9-7 01:22:27

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-9-14 02:13:04

這是更新：

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-9-24 06:08:11

Some more successes from waterfall scrubbers:

Damon on the IM site: "I have been completely skimmer less for over a month now, and my ats has brought my nitrates from off the chart above 50ppm and with yesterday's test it has come down to 5 on the high end with color choosing(can't wait for a Hanna to make a nitrate). I am extremely happy with my ats as it is now, but I do believe I'm going to build a second one next to it. I built this size for a small (75-90g heavy bioload), but I'm going to add a second one that will be a more professional build quality now that I have figured out how I want it to run. I still love the fact that I have dropped $25 a month in electricity, haven't done a water change in a month while still dropping nitrates and getting amazing coral growth. The best part is I am making these to utilize my overflow drains, so in essence I adding a more efficient form of filtration without adding any heat or extra electricity. I can't report on long term results as I've only been running an ats since last fall. But from where my tank was to where it is now is enough for me to jump ship, lol."

Kerry on the scrubber site: "I was hard for me to believe that this device worked. It took about a year before I built one and now I wish I knew about this years ago. Who would have thought algae would provide so much success? I even have one on my 150G FW Jack Dempsey tank as well. And yes, its so nice not to have a skimmer anymore!!!!"

Reefkeeper2 on the RC site: "I run a skimmer, biopellets and an ATS. The skimmer and the pellets worked well keeping nitrates at 0, but there was room for improvement with phosphate control. I tried GFO, and lanthanum. My sps do not like the GFO. I got STN often when I changed it out. The lanthanum worked, but was very labor intensive and so unpractical. The ATS did the trick nicely. I have been a reefer for a very long time. I think I have tried every method of nutrient control thought up by anyone. I really enjoy trying out new ideas and trying to improve on old ones. I have to say that this combination has worked the best of all I have tried over the years."

N728NY on the RC site: "Just chiming in to say I really hope this thread keeps going! Lots of good info. I'm still pretty new to keeping a reef tank. I have been running a scrubber with my skimmer for the past three months. Before then I could never get my nitrates below 15, and since I added my scrubber I never been able to detect any nitrates, even after feeding twice as much. I know with my 75 gallon set up, I made my scrubber slightly over sized (sized for 100 gallons) and I dump huge amounts of pellets and frozen shrimp in my tank on top of spot feeding my corals on a regular basis and I still have yet to register any nitrates on my test kit. Being that I'm still new I still haven't built up the courage to unplug the skimmer yet. I may try it once I know for sure my scrubber is fully matured, got plenty of ro water made up and salt ready just in case I need to do an emergency water change lol. I still have a clump of cheato left that I suppose would be good back up if the scrubber couldn't keep up. The cheato doesn't really grow very much right now because of the scrubber. I love these scrubbers, I'm so glad I took the time to read "both sides" of the arguments on them to find out the facts about them."

Kentth on the scrubber site: "overall the tank is much healthier, a lot of feather dusters, coming out of the rocks, yellow sponges, other opaque sponges. big thing is no water changes for over 8 months, almost no silt, it has really cut my maintenance"

Langtudatinh01 on the RC site: "i completely redo my 40B with the ATS from beginning, i barely see much algae on my display tank but i now have a mature ATS. i relocated all my fish and add another one without any issue. the dead rocks i use bleach quite a lot of phosphate back into the water, but the ATS has handle the issue like a cham. i do not see much algae on my display. everything is green like grass down at the ATS. i am very happy so far.'

Bicolour on the MFUK site: "quick update, so my ats has been running since [6 weeks ago] and i gotta say all the algea in my tank and on the sand has gone, wow. gotta say it was well worth doing. i dont monitor growth at the moment but this is something i will be doing in the future, my set up was basic costing very little as i wanted to try this before i really looked into the idea. very impressed and can only say if you got space look into it"

Rysher on the RC site: "i have a 6x9 screen, 1 inch is submerged so only 6x8 is really used, i also have a 40b. it has been my only form of filtration ever since i started the tank [months ago], i feed almost 2 cubes a day, only have 2 fishes but u cant see any algae on my DT, almost non existent film algae too, i clean my DT glass maybe once a week."

Packman90 on the RC site: "I have a 72 Gallon bow front and until a couple of months ago I was going to throw my tank away and give up on saltwater tanks all together. I was brand new, took a lot of advice, started my system and watched as it became more and more green, until i found out about scrubbers. I lost all of the coral frags I bought, about $400.00 worth, and just felt that I would never get it. I have it now, and just bought my first new frags in over 8 months. Thanks to all of you scrubbers out there who showed me the way. Here is the tank after the scrubber did it's magic. this took a total of 1 month for it to clear up, and I did not remove any of the algae, it just melted a way. Only problem I have is that i have some sea grass that is melting away as well and cheto in my sump is also slowly dieing."

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-9-28 02:56:22

藻屏材料：

1）
應該使用塑料網格作爲藻屏。可以使用木材鋸或者孔鋸使藻屏變得非常粗糙。你可以在藝術商店買到塑料網格（一般在縫紉區）或者在網上購買如www.taobao.com (關鍵詞：塑料網格-十字繡）。下面是藻屏的圖片：

燈光：

2）
每1平方英寸（6.25平方厘米）的藻屏需要1瓦的光照。一個3x4英寸的藻屏需要12瓦的光照。
一定要確保藻屏能夠照到足夠的瓦數。可以使用反光板將燈光集中在藻屏上。如果使用熒光燈，應該選用光譜在2700k-3000k之間。如果使用LED, 應該選用紅色660nm 並且減少一般的瓦數。
爲了是藻類成長的更好，每天最好開燈18小時。如果你的缸中有很多植物，可以適當減少光照。這是反光板和一些燈泡的圖片：

氣泡：

3）你需要一個可以提供1.0升空氣/分的氣泵來給藻屏制造所需的氣泡，這些氣泡會帶動水流湧過藻屏，並爲藻屏提供二氧化物。氣泡需要快速並且平均的流過整個藻屏。最簡單的方法就是將藻屏下方的空氣管劃出開口。氣泵需要每天24小時供氣。

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-10-10 01:00:56

這是有氣泡分離器的新設計。

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-10-14 01:55:47

你們可以建議一些好的廠家來製造這些嗎？

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-11-2 01:18:47

這是放在底濾里有氣泡收集器的設計。這個設計不再需要氣泵了。

作者: vsvs 時間: 2012-11-2 10:24:59

有冇試過用針刷泵?

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-11-10 04:17:21

vsvs 發表於 2012-11-1 18:24
有冇試過用針刷泵?

只要針刷泵符合標準就可以用

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-11-15 05:19:01

这是其他人的一些成功故事

ReeferMat在MASC网站上：
“因为我有一个12英寸气棒，所以那天我制作了一个非常大的UAS. 我希望尺寸并不会影响太多。制作它只花了我不到20美元。所以它是我见过性价比最好的控制水藻的工具。到今天位置它已经运行了3个月了。我不得不说我的鱼缸看起来比以前好多了。每次清理藻屏时都能看到一种新的藻类，气泡藻，草皮藻.....而且藻屏上的水藻长势非常快。我可以说那些缸中讨厌的藻类已经下降很多了。说实话，下降可以说是一种低估。UAS几乎已经消灭了缸里的藻类。每次我清理藻屏的时候，都无法不去想居然有这么多垃圾在我的缸中生长。

wenreefin on the PNWMAS site: "The first two months of running this UAS scrubber thing I was convinced I was going to rip it out for the algae growth was dismal, and I figured that my system just couldn't make it work. (I also have algae in my fuge) WELL I WAS WRONG. The thing started to really kick in. So much so that I just conducted my only water change in 2 months and I hardly think it was even necessary. I usually do a change of 30% every 2 weeks. My sand bed has cleared up big time too. With the water change I pulled out a good baseball sized amount of algae off the scrubber, couldn't be happier! I will always be running one of these. I will post pics of its growth next time I change water. Many months from now. :) "

Bobba on the scrubber site: "Well, it's been almost 3 weeks with the HOG.5, and 2 with my lone Turbo snail. I am happy to report that I have no Hair Algae left in the tank. No signs of any regrowth of what the snail has eaten either."

Clavius on the scrubber site:

"I've been running a 500 liter tank now for 5 years. It is very well stocked with SPS, LPS, softies, filter feeders and a modest amount of fish. The nutrients were being kept very low by a combination of a giant skimmer and the ZEOvit method. Off course, this results in very lightly coloured corals, which was my goal. Generally I'm very pleased with the colouring and growth of my corals, and please with my tank in general. But one battle I've always lost: brown algae covering my sandbed. I could not, for the life of me, find what was causing those algae. Not to mention solve it. I've tried many many things to solve it, but up untill recently, without luck.

Almost three weeks ago though, I installed a HOG.5 unit. It was a little experiment that I wanted to do ever since I learned about algae scrubbers. I was never creative enough to build one myself, as the space in my 100 ltr sump is very limited. The HOG.5 was affordable and tiny enough to enable my experiment. I could even fit 6 of those units in there with ease. Off course, with the ZEO-method, my nutrients already were really very low. I couldn't measure any NO3 or PO4 with my Salifert test kits. And I never bothered with more expensive kits; unmeasurable should be good enough. I wanted to see if the vitamins and amino acids that the algae scrubber produces would add anything to my reef. And, more importantly, if the algae would consume "something" that the brown algae on my sandbed require.

The result in my sandbed is staggering. After only 3 weeks, not a trace of the pesky brown algae is left! An extra benefit, that I didn't expect, is that my lightly coloured corals now all have noticably much more colour. Without getting darker. They seem to glow! I don't know if it is from the vitamins that are released in the water [from the algae scrubber]. Or maybe the ugly brown algae [on the sand] were also covering my corals and that I now finally seeing my uncovered corals! Strangely enough, the algae in my HOG.5 aren't light green, as you would expect with nutrient-poor tanks. But they're a mix of dark brown with red tints here and there. So, I have no idea why that is or how that works. But at this stage I'm just so happy that I really don't care."

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-11-21 02:49:19

还是没有人推荐制造商么

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-11-30 01:35:15

其他人做的一些UAS :)

"Joey2525" on the CMF site...

"Alexleblanc" on the scrubber site...

"Disney" on the PH841 site...

"Cdm2012" on the scrubber site...

"Bicyclebill" on the PNWMAS site

"Mbonus" on the scrubber site...

"UasIslakkie" on the UR site...

"Alman" on the AH site...

"JosephAcquario" on another site...

"Ericsson" on the scrubber site...

"FotisGt" on the AZ site...

"Colin" on the PNWMAS site...

"Accrod" on the PH841 site...

"Atari" on the MC site...

"Kaykay" on the SG site...

"Jameshopper" on the UR site...

作者: newrt 時間: 2012-12-4 12:01:44

各位好！
我用上流式的ATS，今年8月開缸至今，
NO3 可維持接近 0 ppm,
但有另一個問題，就是Mg 會降得很快，
上星期量只有約1000 ppm，結果只好換小小水，
補充一些鎂元素。
你們有發現類似或其他問題嗎？

作者: L138 時間: 2012-12-8 00:08:41

20121207_235331 (100x75).jpg

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http://seafishzone.com/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=MTY3MjB8NzJhZjVmM2F8MTczMjc5MjMwMnwwfDA%3D

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2012-12-11 03:22:54

newrt 發表於 2012-12-3 20:01
各位好！
我用上流式的ATS，今年8月開缸至今，
NO3 可維持接近 0 ppm,

ATS 不会吸收Mg. 最好检查一下你缸里其他的设备

作者: Manta2011 時間: 2012-12-11 11:01:37

newrt 發表於 2012-12-4 12:01
各位好！
我用上流式的ATS，今年8月開缸至今，
NO3 可維持接近 0 ppm,

Ching

可吾可以分享下你的設計

作者: Manta2011 時間: 2012-12-11 11:30:57

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2012-12-11 03:22
ATS 不会吸收Mg. 最好检查一下你缸里其他的设备

Ching

我想 DIY個，向淘寶見到呢款 LED, 適合嗎？

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm? ... id=16273660794&

作者: newrt 時間: 2012-12-11 21:40:07

每週清除藻網上的藻，藻有葉綠素，葉綠素中含有鎂離子，
所以除藻時同時除去魚缸水中的鎂離子。

作者: newrt 時間: 2012-12-11 21:59:24

"ATS 不会吸收Mg. 最好检查一下你缸里其他的设备"

我全個48" RT缸就只有一塊A4 size 藻網作過濾，連濾棉也没有，
所以必定是ATS使鎂下降。

作者: fato 時間: 2013-1-10 18:13:15

自己唔識DIY

請問有冇得買現成的??????????

作者: popo250 時間: 2013-1-10 19:25:58

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-1-16 04:36:24

Manta2011 發表於 2012-12-10 19:30
Ching

我想 DIY個，向淘寶見到呢款 LED, 適合嗎？

這個LED可以用，主要要看它的watt要和藻屏大小對應

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-1-16 04:36:49

fato 發表於 2013-1-10 02:13
自己唔識DIY
請問有冇得買現成的??????????

我把網站pm給你吧

作者: Manta2011 時間: 2013-1-16 18:52:43

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2013-1-16 04:36
我把網站pm給你吧

Ching

也把網站pm給我 pls.

作者: luuun 時間: 2013-1-29 17:06:59

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2013-1-16 04:36
我把網站pm給你吧

可否PM埋我???
THANKS!

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-1-30 01:10:18

luuun 發表於 2013-1-29 01:06
可否PM埋我???
THANKS!

已經pm給你了

作者: swtam 時間: 2013-1-30 02:38:32

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2013-1-16 04:36
我把網站pm給你吧

可否PM埋我???
THANKS!

作者: Manta2011 時間: 2013-1-31 22:58:29

Ching
可否PM埋我???
THANKS!

作者: Manta2011 時間: 2013-1-31 22:58:58

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2013-1-30 01:10
已經pm給你了

可否PM埋我???
THANKS!

作者: wing 時間: 2013-2-28 17:41:23

我也要一個可否pm埋我??

thanks!

作者: rickyriki 時間: 2013-3-3 20:18:29

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作者: samwong 時間: 2013-4-7 22:57:40

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可否PM埋我???
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作者: 傻瓜 時間: 2013-4-9 17:48:44

Hi,
可否PM埋我???
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作者: sb75boy 時間: 2013-4-10 20:01:50

淘寶就有賣現成ATS.不過未用過.唔知效果點樣.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm? ... id=16259801774&

作者: 傻瓜 時間: 2013-4-11 11:26:05

sb75boy 發表於 2013-4-10 20:01
淘寶就有賣現成ATS.不過未用過.唔知效果點樣.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w787081912 ...

UAS好似用少 D 位......
有冇現成既UAS 呢???

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-4-21 05:38:53

本帖最後由 SantaMonicaHelp 於 2013-4-20 13:43 編輯

傻瓜發表於 2013-4-10 19:26
UAS好似用少 D 位......
有冇現成既UAS 呢???

如果有興趣，我將網站pm給你吧。

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-4-21 05:51:34

Air Pump Recommendations for UASR upflow algae scrubbersR. Having bought and tried all of these, here are the best ones:

Flow (highest to lowest):

Coralife Super Luft... TONS of flow for multiple outlets or multiple scrubbers
Tetra Whisper 300... High flow if both outlets are combined into one
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... High flow if both outlets are combined into one
Tetra Whisper 150... Good flow for one outlet
Coralife Luft (regular)... Good flow for one outlet

Noise (most to least):

Coralife Super Luft... (Loud; vibrates)
Coralife Luft (regular)... (Vibrates)
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... Slight vibration
Tetra Whisper 300... Silent
Tetra Whisper 150... Silent

Size: (big to small):

Tetra Whisper 300... Large
JW Aquatic Fusion 700... Medium
Coralife Super Luft... Medium
Tetra Whisper 150... Medium
Coralife Luft (regular)... Small

Cost (most to least):

Coralife Super Luft
Coralife Luft (regular)
Tetra Whisper 300
Tetra Whisper 150
JW Aquatic Fusion 700

Overall winner for a single UAS scrubber used at home: JW Aquatic Fusion 700 (also is the only one with adjustable flow)
Overall winner for multiple UAS scrubbers if noise if ok: Coralife Super Luft

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-5-1 08:44:30

1982: The original dump-bucket style algae scrubber (works, but very hard to build, install, operate, and harvest)

2008: Waterfall style algae scrubber (works good but hard to build and install; must be removed to harvest)

2011: Upflow style scrubber (work goods, easier to build and install on the glass; must be removed to harvest)

2013: ??? (work great, all 3D growth, easy to build, and instant in-place harvesting without needing to remove anything or turn anything off).

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-5-12 06:13:43

如果你在等待製作上流或是瀑布式的藻類洗滌器的話，我們將會發佈我們新的藻類洗滌器計劃。此洗滌器可浮在水面，像船一樣。不需要安裝瀑布。 LED的燈光不會透過玻璃，在玻璃上形成明顯的過於亮的光線。聲音非常小。

--------------------------------------------------

If anyone has been waiting to build a waterfall or upflow scrubber, we

will soon be posting plans of the new floating surface scrubber. It

floats at the top and does not need a waterfall, and it does not shine through the glass.

作者: 肥嘟嘟河馬仔 時間: 2013-5-12 09:15:38

作者: w071215 時間: 2013-5-12 10:18:37

作者: Fishtank 時間: 2013-5-13 02:52:19

SantaMonicaHelp 發表於 2013-4-21 05:38
如果有興趣，我將網站pm給你吧。

師兄，可否pm個網站給小弟?thanks

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-5-28 06:38:21

How to build a floating surface scrubber (如何製作漂浮式藻類洗滌器):

作者: 馬菲 時間: 2013-5-30 00:56:37

好似幾得請問係咪有現成賣？

作者: jackconnieelvis 時間: 2013-6-2 01:33:35

so useful

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2013-6-22 07:28:46

使用漂浮式藻類洗滌器13天海藻生長情況。這次用的是4個3瓦的LED 燈， 660nm（紅色）。可以用CFL 燈來替換。

First 13 days of growth in a floating surface scrubber. This one used four LEDs of 3 watts each, 660nm (red), but you could also use a CFL bulb...

作者: SantaMonicaHelp 時間: 2014-4-15 06:07:07

磷酸鹽流出來的岩石

很多人，當他們得到他們洗滌器運行的第一次，感到擔心的時候多（不低於）藻類開始生長在他們的岩石。看來真的很奇怪，尤其是當硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽也水漲船高比以前低。正在發生的事情是，磷酸鹽是走出來的岩石。請記住，磷酸鹽是看不見的，所以你只能看到它的效果，它總是“流”從高濃度到低濃度（就像熱量一樣）。

例如：如果你的房間是溫暖，而你把一個冷的物體放在地上，從室內空氣的熱量將“流”入對象，直到物體與空氣的溫度相同。例2：如果把一個熱物體在地板上，熱量將“流”出的對象和進入空氣在房間裡，再次，直至空氣與物體的溫度相同。現在假設你打開你的窗戶（冬天）。在你的房間溫暖的空氣會走出去的窗口，它會在寒冷的房間。地板上的對象現在比空氣變暖，所以熱量將流出物和進入空氣，然後窗外。

認為磷酸鹽作為熱量，你的岩石為對象，和你的窗，作為洗滌器。作為滌氣器拉磷酸鹽出來的水，在水中的磷酸鹽水平下降。現在，由於在水中的磷酸鹽水平比在岩石中的磷酸鹽水平較低，磷酸鹽從岩石流入水中，然後從水進入洗滌器。這種情況持續下去，直到在岩石和水的磷酸鹽水平又是電平。請記住，你不能看到這個無形的流量。

這種流動導致了一個有趣的事情發生了。由於磷酸出來的岩石，它就會變為可用盡快磷酸鹽到達那裡是輕的岩石表面飼料藻類。所以，既然岩石的表面粗糙，有輕，它開始變得越來越有藻（不小於）作為磷酸出來的岩石。這是一個非常驚人的事情，看看第一次，因為如果你不知道發生了什麼事你可能會認為，在洗滌器中的藻類被洩露出來，連接到你的岩石。下面是磷酸鹽出來的岩石的跡象：

1，岩石是年齡大了，已經慢慢發展在過去一年中的藻類問題。

2，洗滌器是新的，也許只有幾個月大，而且最近開始生長良好。

3，硝酸鹽和水磷酸鹽測量低，通常是最低的，他們已經在很長一段時間。

4，綠色的頭髮藻類（未棕色）的岩石上在特定的地點有所增加，通常在角落和突起的頂部。

5，玻璃沒有必要清洗一樣多。

由於撇油器，過濾袋等不刪除任何硝酸鹽和磷酸鹽，以及waterchanges和宏觀的在華夫格不要刪除了，大多數人從未見過的迅速出來的岩石大量磷酸鹽的影響。但肯定的是，它的作用。多久繼續嗎？ 2個月到一年的時間，這取決於多磷酸鹽是如何在岩石上，你有多強的洗滌器，以及有多少磷酸根去除過濾器有（ GFO ，炭投加等）。但有一天你會看到白色的岩石前一天被覆蓋在綠色的頭髮的補丁;這是藻類從岩石失去磷酸供應一個明確的信號，不能再堅持下去。現在它只是短短幾天之前的岩石是明確的。

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Phosphate Flow out of Rocks

Many people, when they get their scrubber running for the first time, get worried when more (not less) algae starts to grow on their rocks. It seems really strange, especially when nitrate and phosphate have gone lower than before. What is happening is that phosphate is coming out of the rocks. Remember, phosphate is invisible, so you can only see the effects of it, and it always "flows" from higher concentrations to lower concentrations (just like heat does).

Example: If your room is warm, and you put a cold object on the floor, heat from the air in the room will "flow" into the object until the object and the air are the same temperature. Example 2: If you put a hot object on the floor, heat will "flow" out of the object and go into the air in the room, again, until the air and the object are the same temperature. Now suppose you open your windows (in the winter). The warm air in your room will go out the windows, and it will get colder in the room. The object on the floor is now warmer than the air, so heat will flow out of the object and into the air, and then out the window.

Think of phosphate as the heat, and your rocks as the object, and your windows as the scrubber. As the scrubber pulls phosphate out of the water, the phosphate level in the water drops. Now, since the phosphate level in the water is lower than the phosphate level in the rocks, phosphate flows from the rocks into the water, and then from the water into the scrubber. This continues until the phosphate levels in the rocks and water are level again. And remember, you can't see this invisible flow.

This flow causes an interesting thing happens. As the phosphate comes out of the rocks, it then becomes available to feed algae as soon as the phosphate reaches the surface of the rocks where there is light. So, since the surface of the rocks is rough and has light, it starts growing MORE algae there (not less) as the phosphate comes out of the rocks. This is a pretty amazing thing to see for the first time, because if you did not know what was happening you would probably think that the algae in the scrubber was leaking out and attaching to your rocks. Here are the signs of phosphate coming out of the rocks:

1. The rocks are older, and have slowly developed algae problems in the past year.

2. The scrubber is new, maybe only a few months old, and has recently started to grow well.

3. Nitrate and phosphate measurements in the water are low, usually the lowest they have been in a long time.

4. Green hair algae (not brown) on the rocks has increased in certain spots, usually on corners and protrusions at the top.

5. The glass has not needed cleaning as much.

Since skimmers, filter socks, etc don't remove any nitrate and phosphate, and waterchanges and macro's in a fuge don't remove much, most people have never seen the effects of large amounts of phosphate coming out of the rocks quickly. But sure enough, it does. How long does it continue? For 2 months to a year, depending on how much phosphate is in the rocks, how strong your scrubber is, and how many other phosphate-removing filters you have (GFO, carbon dosing, etc). But one day you will see patches of white rock that were covered in green hair the day before; this is a sure sign that the algae are losing their phosphate supply from the rocks and can no longer hold on. Now it's just a matter of days before the rocks are clear.

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